Does not compute.. reboot universe from start.

[crowie]

Right, I probably shouldn't be posting right now because I currently in a very emotionally speechless state.

Ive been following the wonderful essay cereta wrote on Male Priviledge and fandom. When I read it I had an inner gut feeling which basically was: yes oh yes, that's it *exactly*. I felt validated and happy.

My curiosity made me read the comments and then this one guy houster_gold showed up which said that indeed the world was ruled by women and TV was all centered for and about women etc. His main logic seemed to be to say that other people were idiots and that unless they accepted he was right he couldn't talk to them. Ive been speechless alot but.. I think him proclaiming that the fact that he *doesn't watch TV* makes him a more capable commentor on how tv caters to women than.. y'know people who *watch tv* took the cake.

It got abit better when I realised that he thought that Nielsen ratings were the best judge of at whom the TV shows are aimed at and marketed. I.e if women watch a show it's a show *for* women. No matter the actual content. So y'know the idea that women might watch shows despite some things in them grating horribly or just because there's nothing else on tv to watch doesn't enter into it. Or the fact that you're not automatically an oppressed miniority by being a miniority (i.e his logic goes that more women watch tv than men, thus tv is in general uplifting for women and aimed at them while the men are horribly suppressed with nothing worth watching aimed at them). The entire world is run by the poor then? right 'cos there's more of them than rich people. The most oppressed miniority of all are super billionaires 'cos they're *really* outnumbered.

Right this just.. yeah. It's not something written by him per se but he linked to it in his journal as proof of his opinion:
http://www.ivorcatt.com/2063.htm

I read it through and just wow. People missing the point and ignoring vast and vaaaast amount of history and social conditioning and just.. I yeah. Pretty much speechless. It's not often that my eyes get teary just from being offended. But yeah.. happened today.

Im off to read cereta's essay again. Just to make me feel better.

Comments

[elynross.livejournal.com]

I think him proclaiming that the fact that he *doesn't watch TV* makes him a more capable commentor on how tv caters to women than.. y'know people who *watch tv* took the cake.

Oh, but he's studied this. Really, his argument boils down to a "begs the question" fallacy: more women watch TV than men, therefore, more TV is aimed at men than women. And since men are so scarce, of course it is cultivated more energetically. Um.

The thing about the book review he links to? The book itself has good points, it looks like -- but by and large the negative portrayals of men they point to are in mediums largely controlled by men. That, and the fact of an individual being portrayed as a sexual predator or serial killer isn't actually saying omg teh men are teh evol!!!!

I dunno, I have trouble wrapping my head around a femmey drag queen who acts out like a stereotypical male asshole, but it takes all kinds. Also, he got fandom_wanked like whoa, and that makes me schadenfreudily happy. *g*

Also -- I never thanked you for your lovely beta appreciation comments, even to say, "nonono I never meant abandon the vid!!!" In fact, I still have my notes, and I was thinking about it the other day. I just seem incapable of actually focusing enough to write them up and send them, or talk about it more. I still hope to, because when I listen to the song, it makes me happy to think of the vid.

[crowie.livejournal.com]

Hehe, you are completely right there. ..but don't you see that the negative portrayals of men by male dominated mediums is actually done for women. Because men know so much better what women would ever want and how they look at things (which is just evidenced further in Houster_Gold's apt and accurate take on all things female and female spaces) than women themselves actually do AND they're whipped enough to abase themselves at the altar of womanhood and let us control the whole thing even when they're in charge. Just, yeah. *shakes head*

I didn't even have shadenfraude of seeing him fandom_wanked. My emotion was pretty much just glee. Then again I can be vindictive and petty on occasion.

And now for something completely different: The line putting together sexual predator and serial killer just really made me want to watch some more Oz (mmm.. Chris Keller)

Oh and don't worry aboud the vid notes. I.e I'd really like to see them, but. Hmm.. how to put it. Ive had similar feedback block happen to me and really just throw your notes in an email and send them off to me as they are now. That'd be great. Don't worry about being coherent or linear. This is assuming that what's blocking you is the same thing that tends to block me (perfectionism, i.e I can't let go of stuff because I know I can do it better and then the pressure just builds until I give up)

Or not do that, your choise. Im patient. My only worry is that because Im obsessing abit too much over that vid is that I want it not just to be good. I want it to be *great*. I want it to communicate my take on Methos to the world at large. I want it to be my ultimate Methos experience (and really that's setting myself up for a let down, so putting it in salt for a bit to cool off has been a good thing)

[elynross.livejournal.com]

Oh, God, how could I forget! Women control the media, and are the primary target audience, so of course it's for women!!! Gah.

*sigh*

And it's not blockage on feedback *for this vid*. I can't tell you how many vids I've dloaded and just not watched. The only one I've really been able to focus on was Lum's latest, because. Well. I can't imagine not betaing one of her vids. *g*

But yes, and it *can* be great! I think it could be so either limiting the seasons, or waiting until you can do the full season. It's really got great bones!

[carenejeans.livejournal.com]

I masochistically read that entire thread, and went back and forth from fury to amused... fury. What a card, that guy. Of course, you know that in every discussion like this, a guy *must* show up to be the perfect example of male privilege in action. And voila! Here he is. 8-/

The bit with fripple about the use of the word "honey" was priceless. I wonder how he'd have reacted if one of the women fans had said, "look, honey" to *him* to rebutt his (so-called) arguments. Chee.

cereta's post is brilliant.

[crowie.livejournal.com]

Tell you what's more annoying (basically just made me throw my hands up and go "whatever") is that my flatmate is a gay male. I told him about the ridiculness of getting offended at being called honey = homophobia and my flatmate went "hmm.. I can see his point"

Flatmate is very much a manly guy (used to be into rugby and is about to join the police force etc.) but just yeah.

He's called me honey on a few occasions (usually when we've both been very tired) and I bristled but let it slide because I was just too knackered. If anything this whole thing has made me decide to not let anything like that slide. If that means Im a man eating femnazi then so be it..

Oh and he also said he could see the point about female dominated TV. Said there were no male empowerment shows around while there were lots of female empowerment shows. Like Buffy and Charmed (CHARMED!! fucking Charmed female empowering? Oh yeah those scantily clad sisters who obsess about dating and guys are *so* my rolemodels. Gnah! I have another rant coming about all this but Ive sat on my hands so far.